Comments on: As If It Matters 2008: Supreme Court (Interlude)

By: Moodspins | As If It Matters 2008: Gun Control

Moodspins | As If It Matters 2008: Gun Control — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:10:13 +0000

[...] This was addressed a bit in a previous post. [...]

By: Thomas Daniels

Thomas Daniels — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:28:10 +0000

Dave: this is more explained in my current post. The crux of my argument is that I don’t believe the Framers intended to create 9 amendments to protect people’s rights and 1 to ambiguously protect the state’s or maybe the people’s rights. If the amendment meant that only the militia should be allowed weapons, it would say “The right of the militia to keep and bear arms” or “their right to keep and bear arms”. It says “the right of the people to keep and bear arms”. We have no problem understanding what “the people” refers ANYPLACE else… why does the anti-gun crowd assume it means something different here? The people’s rights to bear arms should not be infringed so they can be ready to be the Militia at a moment’s notice. News for you, if this country were invaded, “the people” would quickly volunteer to be the Militia. Arguing that line means anything other than that is dishonest to the spirit of the rest of the Constitution and willful ignorance to what the definition of “Militia” was at the time. Sorry.

And, ask a rape victim or the victim how much she wished she had the means to defend herself. Anecdotal stories are meaningless and meant to stir passion on one side or the other. Something Michael Savage would do, actually.

By: Matthew Michaels

Matthew Michaels — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:26:03 +0000

Read Tom’s earlier posts; he’s far from a Michael Savage fan.

Plus, while I don’t like guns, I do like that I have the right to own one. I mean, let’s say all guns were illegal except for military and police. Who do you think wins here: a criminal robbing your house or the law-abiding citizen who has no gun — ’cause they’re illegal — who’s being robbed? Just saying.

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:55:22 +0000

“What’s the gotcha in that line?”

You mean the gotcha in THIS line?

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Wow… I totally see two! How about you? Man, you know it sure is underhanded when statements go off and get back in context and then totally make people look like fools. Damn those selectively edited statements and their tendency to return to the original full sentences from which they were gleaned!

I just always find it a little funny when people choose to pull a small part out the text of that amendment and use that to bolster an argument that it simply MUST mean you should be able to sleep with a gun under your pillow.

So what militia are you in? What threat to the freedom of this sovereign state are you defending? Oh, wait, you say you just want the gun cause some inner city youth might try to steal your flat screen TV. Ah… now that’s the sort of freedom the framers fought for!

“And, elected officials do have the tools to regulate civilian uses of weapons: they’re called murder laws.”

That made me laugh. You sir are a comedian of the ilk that is rarely seen in this day and age. I’ll pass that bit of brilliance on to the families of school shooting victims, ever increasing as they may be.

You sound a bit like a Michael Savage fan.

By: Matthew Michaels

Matthew Michaels — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:06:30 +0000

Interestingly enough, based on what McCain’s said publicly, his justices would overturn Roe v. Wade, a decision that I believe you just posted you agree with.