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As If It Matters 2008: Right To Choose
McCain: This work must continue and government must find new ways to empower and strengthen these armies of compassion. These important groups can help build the consensus necessary to end abortion at the state level. As John McCain has publicly noted, “At its core, abortion is a human tragedy. To effect meaningful change, we must engage the debate at a human level.”
Obama: Barack Obama understands that abortion is a divisive issue, and respects those who disagree with him. However, he has been a consistent champion of reproductive choice and will make preserving women’s rights under Roe v. Wade a priority as President. He opposes any constitutional amendment to overturn the Supreme Court’s decision in that case.
McCain believes that Roe vs. Wade was incorrectly decided. I agree with him on that. Individual states should have the right to decide their own course in regards to abortion. It is not mentioned in the Constitution and, therefore, should fall to the Tenth Amendment and be decided by state.
That said, the idea of “amending the constitution” to protect the unborn is one of the more retarded things I’ve ever heard. And, frankly, no… the government should have no say in what is, at the end of the day, a personal and moral decision that’s none of their business. I don’t like abortion. I think it’s tremendously sad. I also think it’s tremendously personal and shouldn’t be legislated by people so far out of touch with reality that they do things like rename French fries into Freedom fries.
But yes, it’s an excellent idea to force people to have unwanted children. It really helps to end the cycle of poverty. At some point, it would be nice if Republicans would pull their head out of the sand in this issue. The idea of teaching abstinence in school is great. On the other hand, it’s pretty much putting your hands over your ears and yelling “NOTHING’S WRONG NOTHING’S WRONG NOTHING’S WRONG”.
That said, I can’t agree with McCain on this because he wants Roe vs. Wade overturned as a path to ending abortions nationwide. This is stupid and will never happen. It’s also one of the more brilliant “single-issue voters” things they have at their disposal. Next up: the other one.
Point: Obama (1-0, Barack)
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Good thoughts, Tom, but a couple of my own.
- You can’t just discount anti-abortion politicians as people hoping to legislate morality. From the POV of many of them, an unborn child is still in fact a HUMAN BEING and therefore abortion is murder. To them, killing the baby three months after conception is equal to killing one three months after birth. That’s a hard thing to change people’s minds on.
- That said, I agree with you that this issue is too grey morally to legislate, especially on a Federal level. At some point — my opinion basically being viability of a fetus outside the womb — this is a legal issue. But until that point, it should be between the woman, her family, her doctors and her God.
- I also agree that this ought to be a State issue, but that it’s kind’ve too late.
- To add to that, putting voting records aside, I think 7 of the 9 Supreme Court Justices were appoined by Republican Presidents. I’m afraid what happens if that number becomes 8 of 9, Roe v. Wade gets overturned, and every woman who would have had an abortion legally now has to go to dirty doctors in back alleys to do so.
Matt:
- To some people, cows are representative of the supreme being. Would you prefer we outlaw hamburgers because those from India think they should be?
- I don’t disagree with you… but on the list of things that should not be legislated, this ranks pretty high.
- There are two justices from Bill Clinton and one from Gerald Ford. So far, the OMG THE END OF THE WORLD Bush guys have been pretty spot-on in interpreting the Constitution. Why don’t we wait until they are actually wrong about something?
And here I was thinking I agreed with you! The only place I “disagreed” was I think you discount the opinions of right to lifers a bit strongly. Cows the supreme being? Something tells me a few more people in America believe unborn babies are humans with the right to live than believe cows are sacred:
http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm
http://hinduism.about.com/library/weekly/extra/bl-hinduamericans.htm
Matt… my point is that lots of religions think lots of things. Most of them are kind of crazy. We shouldn’t create laws based on them.
No but our laws should reflect the will of society, and if a great percentage of that society truly believes something ought to be law, it shouldn’t be dismissed as looney even if a great percentage of others think it is.
That percentage thing is a pretty dangerous line to cross. I’m sure a greater percentage of southern society thought outlawing blacks and whites from marrying was just. A great percentage of voters thought Al Gore should be president.